Joe Siegler "When we open the floodgates, you won't have to do any convincing - the game will do it's own convincing."

UPDATE :Wie Gamasutra berichtet soll 3DR DNF jetzt auf DOOM3 Engine entwickeln. FALSCH !

Joe dazu folgendes im 3DR Sticky Thread gesagt :

That is incorrect. The game is, and has been for quite a long time based on Unreal Technology. That is all

"I guess I'll reconfirm what I said last night. That's an in game, real-time shot of Duke standing in a random hallway. It was really done as a small teaser for a job ad on Gamasutra.com. Nothing more.

I'm glad some of you enjoyed it, and we'll show more later as we start to wake from our slumber and decide how best to show the game off."

"Yes, that was me and that's an in-game, real-time shot of Duke standing in a random hallway," Broussard said. "I just stuck it on a Gamasutra ad to make it stand out from the sea of company logos and maybe act as a small teaser."

"We tend to just do unconventional things in terms of PR," he said. "But we're starting to wake from our slumber and think about when and how best to show the game."

">>What games are you playing? What type of TV?

Resistance. Not much else appealed to me. 42''plasma at 1080i. Games appear to be 720p (Motor Storm demo and Resistance).

>>What are the graphics / framerates like?

Framerate is fine. Resistance doesn't scream next-gen/high tech. About on par with Call of Duty 2, tech wise?

>>How did you get it?

Skills, boy, skills.

>>DNF?

360 dev kits are fun."

"A lot of good points above, but there's something to remember...

It's not 1996 anymore and circle strafing bosses is way too old school."

Das sind wahrscheinlich Fragen die sich viele von euch und auch ich gestellt hab.

Was die erste Frage angeht kann ich mit einem klarem "NEIN!" antworten. Bei den anderen beiden Fragen kann ich es euch nicht sagen...

Das an DNF weiterhin gearbeitet wird darf wohl angenommen werden, das 3DR Mitarbeiter weiterhin im eigenen Forum posten deutet darauf hin (passende News kommen jetzt über WE).

Und wo Felix und Dani abgeblieben sind kann ich euch nicht sagen :(
An dieser Stelle an beide :

Wie auch viele sicher bemerkt haben ist der Comments Bereich weg. Das liegt zum einem an Spam-Bots die damals alles gesprengt haben und wir, bzw Felix in dem Fall, den ganzen Bereich rausgenommen hat. Scheinbar so sehr das auch Toastman keine Lösung fand die Comments wiederzubeleben. Und da Felix sämtliche PW's für FTP usw hat kann ich als verbleibender da auch nicht viel machen, leider :(

Ich denke das wars im großen und ganzen. Falls ihr vorschläge hab wie es weiter geht und welchen Detektiv ich zur Suche von Felix und Dani anheuern soll, so schickt diese per mail an

10, teileweise, sehr wichtige sind 3DR verlorengegangen darunter Brian Cozzens, Kyle Davis, Keith Schuler und Charlie Wiederhold, der mittlerweile für Gearbox an "Brothers In Arms : Hells Highway" arbeitet. Hier mal Auszüge aus dem Statement von 3DR in Form von Joe und George :

Joe Siegler

There's honestly nothing to be concerned about. People leave. People come. There's staff on the project you don't know about. You know some, you don't know most. There's truly nothing to worry about. I know from your end it would seem bad, and if I wasn't still working here and knew more, I'd probably feel the same way.

I'm not worried about my paycheck.

[...]

It's internal business - all employee departures and comings have always been that way. This is nothing new. People have left before, IT IS THE NATURE OF THIS BUSINESS. It's the way it goes. I'm sure people will spin my remarks by saying "He's the company guy, he's gonna say that stuff", but I was out to dinner with George and some other guys tonight, and listening to them, I'm not worried in the least. You shouldn't be either.

[...]

Cancel? Who said we were doing that? We didn't say that. Also, I find it amusing that people say things like skeleton crew when they have no idea how many or who is working on the project. As I said before, you know a couple of names. You don't know the majority of the people on this thing.

George Broussard :

Physics and animation systems are virtually finished and shippable. It's simply maintenance and polish from here on out. We haven't needed to make substantial changes to those systems in months. The changes we have made, were made without great effort. Things are never as bleak as they appear, as is often the case when you simply have one side of the story.


I'm glad to see that Shack is now a major investigative new source. I alone, have secret insider info on half the developers in the industry and their secret unannounced projects, their departures, layoffs and other internal politics. If you really want to open up the site to being the next BitchX or FatBabies, it shouldn't be too hard to solicit reputable sources (anon developers or their friends) to provide you with all the information you need. It's all 'news' :)

It's an interesting problem to make them not campy and silly. I think you'll be pleased with the results. edit: I just saw the TAS concept art! Awesome! That guy is great. Surprisingly, he looks very much like the in game Pig Cops.

[...]

Well they are mutated Earth Defense Force troopers, so they do know some tactics. But, I'm sure you will see them chowing down at a Vegas buffet or other in character actions.

"The Ripper Chaingun is back in the game. [...] It's pretty faithful to the Duke 3D one with some updates to be more modern and a few thousand poly's vs a 2D sprite."

Nachtrag von nurbie : Hier ein Foto aus der "DNF-Version" ;)

Das Internet-Versandhaus Amazon, speziell gesagt der Britische Abgeleger, hat in Vergangengeit schon einmal mit einem neuen Release Date auf sich Aufmerksam gemacht.

Diesmal soll es dann der 27 September 2007 sein. ;)

Alle die diese Seite besuchen wissen -> "WHEN ITS DONE" ...es ändert sich nix daran solange nix DIREKT von 3DR kommt ! Es langt also nicht das jemand sagt er habe von 3DR erfahren das Spiel sei fertig....

Die Online Variante von Maxim hat jetzt eine Top12 der besten Game-Toiletten ins Leben gerufen.

Wer kann sich nicht ins Jahr 1996 zurückversetzten ? Hollywood Holocaust und die Toilette, Duke's Toilette die von einem Alien besetzt wurde ;)

"Hmmm, much better" klang es damals aus den Stereoboxen. Auch MAXIM sah das so und somit landete "Duke Nukem 3D", wie nicht anders zu erwarten, auf Platz 1.

Folgendes ist passiert : GB hat sich nach unendlich vielen Postings zu Prey mal wieder entschlossen EINE (!!!) Frage zu DNF zu beantworten. DNF-News-Flaute ade !

Wird die aktuelle DNF-Build auch die Retail (Verkaufsversion) sein ?

As in what? Retail, vs direct online digital only? I'm sure you will see it in retail. Then again, as long as we're taking, who knows what can change

Da es keine News gibt, werde ich, wie von dani vorgeschlagen, nach und nach Fotos, die ich in den USA gemacht hab, von Locations die in DNF vorkommen könnten, posten.

• 360 patch is in testing
• PC patch is coming soon (in testing)
• New DM models are coming
• New DM maps are coming We will post more details on these soon. If you have any specific requests, this might be a good place to put them.

Also, Leute, ab in den nächsten Laden - It's Prey Time!

"Actually, that video is old enough now that I don't think anyone will care if I go through it and point out specific stuff I worked on, and it'll be kinda fun for me to take that trip down memory lane.

All the ghost town stuff (donkey + sand worm, EDF guy being blown up by a pipebomb, etc) was my Ghost Town map, which is the same base that the screenshots in 1999 were taken from. Those were the Gus shot and the church shot. The church screenshot is the location that the sandworm came out of the ground to eat the donkey in the video.

Also, if you remember the "developer desktop" screenshot from Voodoo Extreme, that was a very early version of the interior of the church.

The Lake Mead section (jetskis, flying jets, boat turret, crashing through the building) was also something I had worked on. That map is partly responsible for my transition over to almost pure coding. I think there is some footage out there of the Quake 2 version of that map that was shown at a much earlier E3 one time.

Funny note, if you look closely at the jetskis when the turret zooms in on them (late in the video) you can see that we accidentally recorded the footage with some LOD stuff setup incorrectly, so the polys on the riders are all messed up. Doh!

The cockpit riding through a tunnel where you can see Duke's legs. I didn't build the cockpit. Just the very basic tunnel. Well and the gameplay that went with it. I was proud of the solution I came up with to make that section work... but that'll be saved for a much later date, if ever.

I had done quite a few of the particle systems as well (not the art, just the functionality). Tripmine explosion that blows up the guy in the blue shirt being chased by an Octabrain, projectile explosions, shrink ray effects, decorations blowing up (like the paint can blowing up and leaving splatters everywhere). Nothing really fancy to write home about, especially compared to particle effects that can be done now, but it was fun and something new and interesting to work on. The bigger flashier effects were usually done by other mappers though for key events (like the mothership blast, pirate ship, ship shooting the Lady Killer sign, etc).

Also the strip club scene at the end with Gus was from one area of the strip club map I had worked on. That map showed up in one of the 1999 screenshots as well, just a different room. Shouldn't be hard to figure out which one.

I think that's about it... I know myself and plenty of the other guys involved in that video are still proud of it to this day. George did a good job coming up with proper pacing for it by learning what works in good movie trailers and applying it to that one, and then we found situations that really showed off the game and Dukeness."

"The demo is at most 10% of the full game, but closer to 7.5% is my guess. But, as far as the coolness factor, the demo is at most 5%. You guys just have no idea what's coming! ;-)"

"We have no plans to do that. Shouldn't we get the regular game done first before we start talking about that anyway?"

"Guys, do you seriously think we won't have a demo/sharware for DNF? Come on.

Also, when it's done you won't NOT be able to know about it."

"Neither of those is/was true, to my knowledge. So, yeah (Anmerkung des Verfassers: Diese Aussage bezieht sich auf den angeblichen 6 Millionen Dollar Deal, welcher nun auf 4,25 Millionen gekürzt worden sein soll).

Our deal is simple. We're making the game. It'll be done when it's done. We've funded 99.999% of the game (aside from a very, very small advance from GT Interactive, years ago, before Take 2 bought the game from them). It's our risk, our necks and our gamble. Under the deal we should be earing royalties from about unit 30,000 or so (that's a real small number), so yeah...

As for the 500k completion bonus, I don't even know were that came from. Scott would know, but I do know that we never cared or asked for it, and I think it was just tossed in as part of some other agreement. We're certainly not motivated by that amount of money, after all this time, and getting the game right is what matters. I would never ship a game early (even a couple of months), for 500k.

It's just very odd to read all this and see facts tossed around, that as far as I know, are completely wrong (at least as stated or interpreted above). Maybe it all traces back to the original Gamespot article getting things wrong, or interpreting them wrong (and every other site copy/pasting the news with no attempt to verify), or Take 2's report languge being vague at best. Game journalism is actually pretty annoying in the copy/paste regard."

"Every time this kind of thing comes up, people think it's some "new news", but it's not. Means nothing. George goes into detail above, read his posts on the matter. That should be the news, not the "cut & paste journalism" George refers to which is being passed around as fact."

"Isn't that obvious? If it wasn't, don't you think it would have been out by now?"

"George said that?

Even if that was said - so what? Do you think DNF will exist in a vacuum where other games can't exist - and can't be good? HL2 is out. DNF is not. Of course DNF can't be the best ever since it hasn't been released yet. Yeesh!"

"DNF roxors your boxors."

"Not DNF's status, no... that is just fine. My own status has changed though. I'm moving on from 3DR. Unsure exactly what I'll be doing next and right now I'm just enjoying a true vacation with no time pressures and no need to do anything except play around. I took Asmo's advice to the extreme... and now have 100% time for myself. I'm kicking the dirt to see what else is out there that I'd be interested in doing once the break is over.

I will miss the team and the project very very VERY much... but it was long past due for me to move on. "

"I think demo will clock in at around an hour for most people, and we hope that people apreciate that, in contrast to the single level, 5-10 minute demos, in lots of cases. We could have cut both shorter, but why do that? If someone doesn't like your demo, it's likely that they know that within 10-15 minutes. But lots of people are on the fence and need a little more time to be absorbed into the game world. Doing a longer demo just feels like the right thing to do and goes back to our shareware roots of "try before you buy"."

"It is going to spoil the start of the game, but if you are certain you wll buy the game anyway, then just skip the demo. I know this is hard to do in practice.

"One cool tidbit- we've made it so that your save games in the demo will work with the final game. That way you can play the demo and not ruin anything for the final game since you can just pick up where you left off."

Update von nurbie

Zum Thema Systemanforderungen für Prey sagte GB im 3DR Forum folgendes :

I can play Prey on a 1900xtx, AMD 4400+ at 1600x1200 with all the features on.

We have people at the office play and finish it on as low as a 2.5ghz, 9800, and even one on a 2.0Ghz/9700Pro. So, the game scales pretty well.

Clearly there is a midrange, probably starting aroung 2.8Ghz and a 9800. Higher end video cards will make the game scream.

Mitdabei sind auch ältere Bilder die einen Umzug von 3DR oder Offroad Tour zeigen.

Genauer gesagt ein von "The Hollywood Reporter" geführtes Interview mit Scott Miller von "DailyTech" falsch wiedergeben wird.

Aus dem Interview von geht in keinsterweise hervor das DNF "almost done" wäre. Es ist einfach nur schlecht & falsch wiedergegeben von DailyTech und anderen Seiten die sich natürlich auf die News von DailyTech berufen ohne etwas genauer hinzusehen.

Auch unser George bemägelt :

Seems like poor journalism on DailyTech's part. I see no quote from Scott that even remotely approaches a release date or status update (in the Hollywood Reporter article).
So, closing this now, as it's clearly a false alarm due to poor journalism.

We've put about $7.5 million into that and we've been working on it since late 1998. So it really hasn't been that much of an investment. And once it comes out, if it's as successful as we think it'll be, we'll make that money back in the first day or two of sales.

"Duke doesn't need a squad of team members, and he doesn't need to hide behind things, to kick ass

Seriously though, that video looks awesome! They've done a great job on the art and level design.

As Charlie alluded to and what Denz (Forenmitglied bei 3DR - Anm. d. Verf.) said...Vegas is only a small part of the game.

As more and more people make games, you're going to see lots and lots of overlap in terms of art/locations and everything. This is fine. There are plenty of movies with Vegas in them, and I can enjoy them all."

"Just like if... say... Epic were to do a Las Vegas setting it would *also* look stunning. Or the Metal Gear Solid guys. You get the idea. As gamers we'd be in heaven with all those quality depictions of the setting while offering 3 totally different experiences and styles of play.

It's not an on/off sort of situation. There is plenty of room for multiple games to handle the same settings and not affect the enjoyment of those settings (and all look great for their varying style and needs). How many war torn European cities have we gone through over the past 6 years?"

Neben 2 Neuen Singleplayer Trailern darf man auch neue Ingame-Screenshots begutachten.

Für alle die das Spiel nicht vor dem Release im Juli sehen wollen : GUCKT WEG :)

Desweiteren wird es keine Demo zu Prey geben auf dem XBOX LIVE Marktplatz während der E3. Auch , wie GB in einem Posting mitteilte, wird es kein CO-OP geben.

3DRealms & Human Head haben deswegen einen weiteren Trailer in HD (720p) Qualität mit Spielszenen veröffentlicht.

Weiterhin sollen in den nexten Tagen und Woche noch mehr Trailer und Material veröffentlicht werden.

Download PREY HD 720p Trailer ( 131 MB )

"DNF at E3: Not this year -- 3DR wants to concentrate on hyping Prey at this point."

"At a pre-E3 event yesterday in San Francisco, Ca., 2K Games officially clarified that Prey, the Xbox 360 and PC first-person shooter in development by Humanhead, has moved to a July release date."

"Hard to move it, when it never had a date to begin with."

3DRealms und Human Head planen für bei der Versionen des Spiels (PC & XBOX 360) eine Collectors Edition. Diese wird dann 1 von 3 Zinn-Spielfiguren enthalten.

Neben dieser Collectors Edition, mehr Infos dazu bald, wird es Prey natürlich auch in einer "normalen" Variante geben.

Der jetzt von 3DRealms & Human Head veröffentlichte Trailer zeigt 3:45 min teilweise neue Spielszenen die lust auf mehr machen.

Den passenden Artikel zum "Super Trailer" findet ihr bei IGN wenn ihr auf das Bild klickt.

"Studies of the brain using the video game Duke Nukem have shown how sleep affects long-term memory.

The Belgian team used MRI scans to see how volunteers stored spatial information from the game.

Sleep-deprived gamers recalled information from a different part of the brain to those who slept."

Beim nun 14ten Weekly Update hatte jeder Mitarbeiter die Aufgabe seinen Alltag zu beschreiben. Besonders hervorheben möchte ich Mike Flynn, Script Manager bei Human Head :

"I overslept today due to late night crunching. I got in late, checked my e-mail and grabbed some food and coffee. I ate my food and updated everything to the latest version of the game while checking the latest news and going over my tasks for the day. I got most of my direct tasks done over the weekend so all that is left is the pickier more difficult stuff. Before getting into those, I entered some new internal bugs and tasks into our wiki for myself and the other scripters. There are only a few and they are thankfully minor; this week is crazy enough with crunch mode.


Coffee. Need more coffee. Hopefully I won't get screwed with the pot having only a half a cup left and have to make more. Ah, the coffee gods smile upon me with a freshly brewed pot. I cue up some Captain Beefheart, Arcade Fire, and Daft Punk, hit random and get to work. Man, Neighborhood #1 is a great track. The day goes well into the next morning, with many bugs found and fixed, dialog added, and various game play tweaks implemented, tested, reimplemented, and tested again. In between map builds, which are needed for a conclusive test of most changed or added elements, I geek out on netside attractions or check my task list to see what needs to be done next."

I expect a pre-order announcement soon and the game is basically done and just being polished, tweaked, and in the final stages of completion.

"Don't worry. When I say tech complete, I mean we could ship if all the content were done. It's fairly easy to add and update shaders and we do so all the time. The graphics guys area ahead and always have time to add in bells and whistles. Many things like per pixel blur, depth of field etc, have zero impact on game content and drop in, in a few days."

Auch die Frage, ob die genannten Technik-Features bereits im Spiel enthalten seien, und ob die Engine nicht bereits seit 2004 fertig wäre, wird beantwortet.

"Yeah, those things are in and have been for a while. And yes, we've been fundamentally tech complete for longer than a year. But this is a case where you just say things without thinking and then people pick the details apart in print later."

Und weiter gehts mit den Neuigkeiten: Nachdem die neuen Infos über DNF im Computer Games Magazine schnell die Runde gemacht haben, hat sich der veranwortliche Redakteur des Artikels, Tom Chick, im 3D Realms Forum persönlich zu Wort gemeldet um einige Dinge klar zu stellen. Als erstes hat er dabei einige Missverständnisse bzgl. des Mini-Artikels geklärt.

"[...]I'd like to sincerely apologize to George if he feels I misrepresented anything. I was honored to get to meet the him and Scott Miller, and I was particularly honored be able to see what they were showing of DNF. I meant no disrespect with any comments about George looking at the index cards; instead, I intended it to be a sort of endearing detail. My bad if it didn't come across that way.


Third, the point of the email thing at the end was that it was how a lot of us feel about DNF in a microcosm: we're impatient and demanding and quick to dismiss it, but in the end, it's most likely going to come through. BTW, it's worth noting that there's no guarantee the email thing will be in the final game. It was just an example of one of the many experimental things I was shown and I was using it to make a point.


Finally, I'd be happy to answer questions, but a lot of what I saw -- and I saw quite a bit -- was shown to me in confidence. The whole point of the sidebar was to be an aside that Duke is indeed in progress. I was mainly there to do the cover story on Prey, but George was kind enough to take about an hour to show me how DNF is coming along.

[...]

it's not so much that I was told what I can and can't write, but that the demo was given in confidence. There was a lot of stuff I would have loved to talk about, and it was really gratifying to see the same creative energy that drove Duke 3D is still very much in effect. But none of it was final and 3DR understandably doesn't want to commit to specific features, screenshots, and so forth. Instead, they agreed that we could run a sidebar (i.e. a short article accompanying the Prey cover story) pointing out the the game is indeed in development."

"As for the engine, I don't think anyone at 3DR would mind me saying that they're doing some impressive stuff."

Auf die Frage, ob er auch irgendwelche Waffen, vielleicht sogar in einem Kampf, bewundern durfte, antwortet Tom folgend:

"What I was trying to say was that I'd be happy to answer any questions, but the stuff I saw was showed to me in confidence, so I can't really talk about specifics.


But to respond in a more general way, yes, much of the stuff you're talking about is up and running. Sorry to be a tease, but I think you guys will be pretty excited when 3DR is ready to talk more specifically about those things."

Und zu aller letzt versucht Tom auch noch zu erklären, warum 3D Realms trotz der ganzen Geheimhaltung immer wieder zwischendurch dem ein oder anderen Magazin ein wenig von DNF zeigt.

"I can't speak for 3DR, but I suspect it has to do with the fact that whenever a 3DR game is discussed, Duke Nuken Forever is sort of like an elephant in the room.


I was going to spend the afternoon at their studios seeing Prey, and I'm sure they know everyone is wondering about DNF. So rather than ignore the elephant in the room, they decided to let me have an informal look. Yet they're not ready to talk specifics yet, so what's the compromise? The sidebar in the magazine is how it turned out."

"There's a mock-up of an early level, a vehicle sequence, a few test rooms and even an AI-driven battle between some familiar characters."

Weiter im Text wird es dann noch besser. Der typische 3D Realms-Humor soll auch in DNF wieder ordentlich vorhanden sein und auch die interaktiven Möglichkeiten klingen sehr vielversprechend. Als konkretes Beispiel wird die Möglichkeit genannt, richtige E-Mails (!) vom Spiel aus verschicken zu können.

"A lot of the proof-of-concept stuff consists of Duke just fiddling with things. 'You should reward the player for playing with the world,' Broussard says as he just does that. At one point, Duke Nukem steps in front of a computer. 'What's your e-mail address?' Broussard asks. Duke jots down a note, types in my address, and hits send."

Na, wenn das mal nicht vielversprechend klingt. Das Releasedate mag immer noch "When it's done" lauten, doch der Duke scheint langsam wirklich Form anzunehmen.

Danke fürs schreiben der News und "Welcome in our Team" Dani ;)

Bevor ich es vergesse hier sind die Scans aus der "Computer Games" :

Trailer ? Ja, welcher ?

E3 2001 ? Ja, und ?

Mal genauer angesehen ? Nein, warum ? Was ist da so besonderes ?

Habt ihr euch den Trailer mal genauer angeschaut ? Ich möchte nochmals anmerken das der Trailer von 2001 ist und wenn ihr mal die Screenshots vergleicht.... RESPEKT 3DR !

Diesmal stehen auf der Tagesordnung :

So berichtigte Joe Siegler ein Forenposting, das beinhaltete das man nichtmal das Hauptnemü im Spiel fertig hätte und weiterhin mit der Physik-Engine rumgespielt wird, folgendermaßen :

Joe Siegler :

"Pay closer attention. These things are done. George has little tidbits like that from time to time in the forums."

George Broussard:


"It's besto just keep quiet until we are ready to unveil. It's been too long, with too many false starts and pr that started too early. So this is how it's going to be, until we are ready, and we know that it's done and just a matter of crossing some t's and dotting some i's. This really is the best path, for this game, at this time.

[..] The core fans will be fans regardless, for the most part. The others only want to see tangible results and know the game is close. No talk. No updates. Just results.

Anderes wie Spiele wie Doom 3 oder Quake 4 scheint Prey wirklich etwas neues zu bieten im Multiplayer-Part.

Die Kollegen von 1UP.com hatten das große Vergnügen mit dem "Guru" George Broussard ein Interview führen zu dürfen. Dabei ging es überwiegend um Prey und , für uns erfreulich, um DNF !

Demnach sind Waffen und die Gegner DONE (!!!). 3DR versucht nun alle diese Teile ins Spiel zu integrieren, das dabei aber Probleme entstehen können und es nicht immer so in der Praxis läuft wie in der Theorie dürfen eigentlich alle wissen. Wann wird DNF released ?

GB: [Laughs] I think it'll be out when pigs fly. But it's definitely going well now. Things are together; we're in full production. We're basically just pulling all the pieces together and making the game out of it.

There's a lot that's finished. All the guns are finished. Most of the creatures are finished.

And as I said, we're just basically pulling it all together and trying to make it fun. We've kind of got all these disassociated elements that make up a game, and you put them together and things happen. And then you just tweak it and polish it until it's fun, and that's kind of the phase we're in now, just trying to make something that is really fun to play and interesting.

Welches Rating wird Prey bekommen ?

It'll be a Mature rated game.

The game is going to run fine on anything that can run Doom 3. If you are in the neighborhood of 2.8Ghz and a 9800 Pro, you are in great shape.

A talented studio owned by Take Two, Venom Games (http://www.venomgames.co.uk/) are doing the 360 version of the game. They've been on it a few months and it is up and running. They work closely with Human Head.

There is no release date for the game. It is 'when it's done'. Someone at 2K Games probably threw the date out there for G4.

[..]

it may well be June 6th. May be sooner, may be later. We don't know. We have some ballpark estimates we're shooting for internally, but this is the first time I've ever heard of June 6th.

GB versucht das ganze zu erklären :

Let's not officially hold to the 6 month thing, ok? Just to manage expectations. We certainly don't want to show the game too early, but we also want there to be more than enough build up time, and we don't want to surprise people.

We don't have any official stance on how long is the right length, but it's not hard coded to six months, either.

3DR hat Prey, das für PC und XBOX360 erscheinen wird, jetzt eine eigene Seite spendiert inkl High-Res Screenshots, Videos und einer Beschreibung des Spiels samt Feature-Liste.

GB darf natürlich auch nicht fehlen und sprach folgendes aus :

We've got a Prey surprise coming for you, too, so tune in this time next week.

Viele stellen sie die Frage ob nächste Woche eine Demo zu Prey kommen wird doch GB war uns einen Schritt vorraus :

Hmmm...ok, best to manage expectations. No. Not a demo. I said surprise, not OMFG!!!!

GB, der Gott, spricht öfter zur Gemeinde, Gerüchte um einen enthüllungs Artikel in der Februar Ausgabe der amerikanischen PC-Spiele Zeitschrift "PC Gamer" stehen im Raum...guter Anfang für 2006. GB spricht über die Einstellung neuer Mitarbeiter (Senior Game Designer,Programmer) und über die definitive Rückkehr des Battlelords :

The Battlelord will indeed return, in DNF.

We're looking to hire a number of people to help us get done. Don't panic. See it as a good thing. We simply need more people.

Just trying to get *done*.

Hiring people is tiring and very hard right now. Every developer out there is ramping up big time for next gen games with next gen visuals, and huge teams, and it's very very hard for anyone to hire enough people that they need.

Just look at the job ads on the Gamasutra site. Gamasutra.com

Not sure it needs to. Just need to look pretty, and play fun.

We've opted to put complexity in other areas of the game, where it may be more noticeable. I never noticed the upgrades in RE4 at all. I kept buying them, and I assume they helped me, but I never felt more powerful, because as I upgraded weapons, I assume the creatures were getting harder too, so it just balanced out.

Zum Abschluss will ich euch noch ein paar Fotos zeigen die ich von DEKOforce bekommen habe.Sie stammen aus dem Jahr 1997 und wurden wahrscheinlich in Siegen gemacht auf einer DnGER Lan-Party.

In diesem Jahr wird Duke Nukem 3D sein 10 jähriges Jubiläum feiern und nachdem bereits zum 10 jährigen Jubiläum von Duke Nukem 1, dem 2D "Shooter", einen Trailer gab ( E3 2001 ) wird uns 3DR hoffentlich dieses Jahr beglücken ;) Nun zurück zum Thema : GB spricht über "spezielle" Sub-Machine Guns und über den Einsatz von Pipe Bombs und der "Pipe-Bomb-Taste" :

Every game has sub machine guns. Duke needs something a little different, if for nothing else, than from a visual standpoint.

What we did was that if you just throw out a Pipe Bomb via the qucik key, it goes out and detonates in a few seconds. If you want to throw it out and use the trigger, then you select it using the normal weapons interface. We assume that if you are throwing a bomb out via the quick key, you really want it to go off, quickly. So this enables you to toss out a few, quickly, in high stress situations, or throw one out via the weapon selection and be more sneaky about it.

Nachdem ja schon einige für diese News den "When its done" Slogan verwendet haben sind wir , Tesafilm und ich, endlich fertig !

Damals im Jahre 1996 als Duke Nukem 3D erschien bildeten sich schnell Clans und Ligen. ESport wie man ihn jetzt kennt gab es damals nicht. Gespielt wurde über 33.6 oder 56K Modems und damit , vielleicht lehne ich mich zuweit aus dem Fester, war Duke3D mit der erste Online Shooter.

Schnell, schneller, Duke 3D ! So hieß es damals, für einige war es sogar zu schnell. Ich möchte an dieser Stelle ein ganz dickes Dankeschön an Tesafilm aussprechen für das erstellen des folgenden Tutorials :

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How to..........playing Duke 3D over internet :

Vorraussetzung: Jeder sollte eigentlich die duke3d.grp Datei besitzen, am besten die von der Atomic Version.

Ok, dann kanns losgehen:

Quake 1 ? Quake 2 ?

"GB" gibt die Anwort mit welcher Engine 3DR damals für Duke Forever angefangen hat :

We really didn't use Quake 1. When we were finishing Shadow Warrior a couple of guys were playing with Quake 1, while we were waiting for Quake 2 code (late 97/early 98). We didn't really start even hiring people for DNF until late 97, after we shipped Shadow Warrior, and into early 98. We then prototyped some stuff in Quake 2 from Jan 98 until about E3 or so. Then we moved to Unreal 1. The rest is history, long and painful as it's been at times

Anyway, wie auf der 3DRealms Seite zulesen ist gibt es 2 neue Spiele aus dem Duke Nukem Universum.

"Duke Nukem Mobile II: Bikini Project", der Nachfolger zum, im letzten Jahr erschienenen, ersten Teil.

Features :

New weapons and power-ups, including Duke's infamous jetpack

Exotic & mysterious locations

Immersive mobile game world with all-new cut-scenes & animations

new scumbag alien bosses and grunts

High-resolution, state of the art mobile graphics engine

"It looks awesome... it looks hardcore. I don't know how much detail I should go into... one scene was a bunch of police-like SWAT dudes looking hardcore and pissed off. Slick looking helmets and carrying the "we are ready to kill you" dimeanor. One of Dukes guns in another shot looked very awesome. Very true to DN3D.(How am I supposed to describe what a gun looks like?) Lighting is awesome. I wanted to ask if the images has been photoshopped, becuase, well, they looked really fucking superior (and true to Duke Nukem)."

GB sagte dazu folgendes :

"It's true. I just printed three shots on our color laser printer five minutes before we left to see the movie. It was a really impulsive thing to do, and just for the hell of it, for a fellow Shacker. We caught up with him literally at the last second on the curb of the parking lot. It doesn't mean, or predict anything, and I maybe shouldn't have done it, but like I said, it was just an impulse. He was surrouned by ninjas hiding in the bushes and never would have made it to his car, if he'd chosen to run."

Danke an Dani|vgamers.de für die Info !

Laut Amazon soll unser Duke Forever bereits im Dezember erscheinen, man beachte das Wörtchen "soll" ;)

3DR selbst sagt : "Glaub an keine Releasedaten solange sie nicht von uns kommen."

Die Kollegen vom "Inquirer" schreiben folgenden "Müll" :

"We do know the developers of Duke Nukem Forever changed the software engine three times and that now it wants to stick with the Doom 3 engine."

DNF hat überhaupt nix mit der Doom3 Engine gemein liebe Kollegen.Prey JA, DNF NEIN !

Außerdem antwortet GB im 3DR-Forum auf die Frage ob man nicht lieber 2-3 Duke Spiele gemacht hätte statt DNF bis in die Perfektion zu entwickeln ähnlich wie es ID Software mit der Quake/Doom Serie macht, Epic mit Unreal usw :

"And I'm right there with you. I wish that had been an option. I've said before, and I'll say it again, we screwed up on early versions and made some mistakes. This hasn't been a journey of perfection. It's been a journey of just trying to finish what we started, and make it as cool as possible. I would love to have been on Duke 7 by now, but that's not how things panned out. So all we can do is finish this game, and make it the best that we can, then move on. That's what we're trying to do now. "

Dabei verrät GB das der Aufkauf von "Meqon", der Firma die die Physik-Engine für Duke zur Verfügung stellt, nicht die Entwicklung beeinträchtigen sollte.

Desweiteren erklärt George das sich die Verschiedenen Teile des Spiels wie z.B. Gegner/NPCs, Waffen, Maps, Music/Sound und der Multiplayer-Modus in verschiedenen Stadien befinden von Pre-Alpha bis Beta demnach wird es noch länger dauern bis wird endlich irgendwann 2019 verkünden können "DNF has gone GOLD!".

Die Frage ob DNF bei Release auf CD oder DVD erscheinen wird, wird sich erst wie schon oft von 3DR erwähnt kurz vor Release entscheiden.

Nachfolgend noch mehr Antworten:

"No idea. We are too close to judge things. We just hope it's fun."

"I'd say very important."

"No. We really make this up as we go along and we don't plan it. We'll simply wake up one day and realize it's time to show it."

"Happy Birthday ;)"

We certainly have very high standards, but the bottom line is that we had some issues and made some big mistakes and that cost us a few years of wasted development. We started fresh in very late 02 (really early 03) and have been on a pretty good pace since then. We are making progress and driving towards something.

This reallly is a case of just screwing up in a cosmic way early on, then just deciding to try to do it right.

"DNF", wie das Projekt auch genannt wird, soll der Nachfolger zum erfolgreichen, 1996 erschienenen, Ego-Shooter Duke Nukem 3D.

So ich hoffe das lang für die non "DNF-Freaks" ;) Vor einiger Zeit hatten wir hier bereits News mit Beispielen was "Meqon" kann. Jetzt haben wir wieder neue Material und ihr könnt zugleich "Meqon" mit dem neuen "PhysX Chip" vergleichen.

*UPDATE* Nachdem, falls ihr es nicht mitbekommen haben solltet, AGEIA, entwickler des PhysX Chip den Hersteller der Physik-Engine für DNF, Meqon, gekauft haben stellen sich vielleicht viele die Frage was aus DNF wird ?!? Muss 3DR auf eine neue Engine umsteigen ? Wie wird das allgemein mit dem bestehenden Physik-Part weiter gehen ?
GB äußert sich zu diesem Thema im 3DR-Forum :

"We're just now hearing about this, too. On the surface I'm not too happy about it as we were getting to a very very stable point with our physics and nearing a point of being tech complete, and just working on polish.

We'll see what happens, but we're certainly not interested in the prospects of moving to a new SDK - again.

[...] You cannot fully support the Ageia PPU, as not enough people have it, or will have it, any time soon. Every developer I know is doing "normal" physics that run in software, but has some extra fluff stuff if there is a PPU present. I just don't think it will be that impacting, short term. In 3-4 years, maybe. When it gets in a console unit, or on a motherboard, sure. I just do not believe that many people will pay $200 for a PPU, and that means that support will be miminal at first, and only grow as card penetration does. I would expect that penetration to be slow unless there are significant hardware deals."

GB sagt auch das einige Monster auch ein Jet-Pack haben werden....also quasi wie bei Duke3D ;)

Yes. On some creatures and for the player (in limited single player areas) and in multiplayer."

Wird es ein Inventar, ähnlich wie bei Duke3D, bei DNF geben ? :

Yeah, that stuff is all in and works. I'm a little concerned about complexity, as I can't remember the last high level fps that shipped with 'inventory'. I sometimes wonder if due to consoles and just general simplification, if you aren't better off without things like that. But yes, most of your favorites Duke 3D items are returning (ar at least they are in now...who knows if they make the final cut!)

[...]

Not the case at all, but you'd be foolish to not consider next gen consoles and their controllers in the future. This doesn't mean dumbing down of anything. Making the pc version as good as poissible is definitley a very high priority.

[...]Since day one Apogee has always included a god mode (and other cheats) because we were tired of paying $40-$50 for pc games and getting stuck in them. No early 90's pc arcade games didn't have quicksaves.

DNF certainly will. I don't recall if Prey does now or not, but it's relatively easy to put in and I'd expect it for this generation of games as wide screen displays.

[...]

Well I have an Apple Cinema Display and even if I run in 800x600, it's widescreen, but a stretched image. If it was true widescreen support, then it wouldn't be stretched, but would still run well. Wide screen doesn't mean you need to run in 1600x1200.

We get updates near weekly from Meqon and are usually many, many small versions past whatever the public release is. They are always working with Kyle on bugs and features and improving things.

Final voice plans have not been made. We would never have two voice actors for the same role.

We're no longer very big fans of selecting game difficulty and I think it's a solved problem as to how to make things auto adjust transparently enough so that anyone can play a game and enjoy it. I'm sure we'd toss a Nightmare mode in there too, just for people that want a real challenge. But generally I think that skill level selection is a bad thing in games. It would be nice if they could just play and the game took care of them.

Kurz darauf hatte ich im 3DRealms Forum einen Thread gestartet mit halt eben diesem Thema. Nach circa 20-30 Antworten wurde dieser Thread von Joe geschlossen mit der Begründung "WID blah blah".

So schnell wie der Thread gelockt wurde hat man sich seitens 3DR entschieden ihn doch wieder zu eröffnen und Klarheit zu schaffen bezüglich der möglicherweise bald anstehenden DNF Alpha. Entstanden ist das Thema durch einen Bericht über Prey/DNF in der GameStar Ausgabe 08/05.

Auch George Broussard meldete sich im Forum zu Wort und versucht einige Unklarheiten aus der Welt zu räumen

"I think they likely misunderstood some casual comments in the hallway, between Prey showings. I'm not going to comment too much on where we are or where we are going, but I've said in the past that a lot of the enemies are done and in, and all of the guns are in (most to beta levels). But there's more to a game than 10 guns and 20 bad guys. We're working on some of those parts now. "

Because things happen when you take conversations from memory and things are flying all over the place. He probably heard something like "we're hooking up all the levels so we can run through them real fast with no guns or guys". All that means is that you lock your geometry and get a chance to stand back and look at it ant think "this is what we want to ship...let's get this all working and cool, and then see about adjustments to lenght, fun or whatever. But this is what we intend to make, barring any serious issues".

Und jetzt die Antworte auf die Frage der Fragen : Wie lange wird DNF entwickelt ?

About 2.5 years since we threw everything out content wise and went forward with a new engine and plan. Forget everything prior to 2003. It's lost gone, and doesn't even count.

Pretty much had a new renderer by Nov 2002. The content redirection coincided with the tech change and we went forward once we knew things were stable and going to work on the tech end. So accounting for end of year slow down and Xmas vacations, you can assume a pretty much fresh start from 2003 forward.

"8 gigs. We still haven't trimmed some bloat from it, but we're also not done yet.
[...]
6-8 gigs Like I said...we have stuff to trim, but we're not done. So it'll be in that range. There is a *lot* of art and that takes up tremendous space."

"We did the Plutonim Pak in house. Duke it Out in DC and Duke Carribean were also done, by outside teams. We're not even thinking about add on packs for DNF now. Let's finish this game first"

Kein geringerer als GB versucht die Frage zu beantworten :

"I can say with all honesty that even we don't know when we will be done. We are trying, and we are headed that way."

"Yes."

"Yes."

"Our rendering is 100% different than Unreal 2. We wrote our own."

"Very late 2002. The rendering was up and running and we knew it would all work.

As for why we didn't grab Doom 3 in 2001 with Prey? Maybe we should have, but we had tons of gameplay code that would have been a nightmare to port over. We maintained all that through our engine upgrade.

Also Doom 3 as an engine was still a long way from being done as a shippable engine in 2001. It was a while before things stabilized and were prety solid, as is always the case with engines in development."

Anhang : Was ist Normal Mapping ?

"It takes a while to build up good word of mouth and buzz on a game. Prey is starting from a very different place than DNF, so it needs more exposure. "

DNF Projekt-Leiter Herr George Broussard gibt nun eine kleine Auskunft :

"Duke 4/DNF etc will not be on PS2.



Duke Nukem Forever (pc and next gen consoles) is alive and well."

"Achtung Baby!" hier kommt der Kommentar von GB :

"Well Duke Nukem D-Day was in fact cancelled. It was az PS2 game where Duke went back in time and was a key factor in all the major WW2 events, and helped turn the tide. Of course it was a kind of alternate reality and there were alien Nazi's. I wish that game had worked out because it would have been among the very first WW2 games to come out, before you saw one a week. So, that's what D-Day was. That IGN link now is wrong."

"9800 Pro's, some 6800GT's and some 6800 Ultra's."

This is hard to say, as a model can be anything from a prop (like a chair, microwave, etc) to the tons and tons of models that go into the levels as architecture to flesh out a level. A ton is done. We have hundreds of props that you can place in the world, and the artists just continue to pump stuff out.

We complete them as they go in, so the ones that are done, are in.

Yes. In, with animations, sound pass, and final textures. We'll probably add a couple more as we go, and there are some whacky ideas we want to explore, but all the base guns are in and we could ship with what we have.

15 or so, and working on more.

Levels.

Yes.

He was a signature bad guy from Duke 3D, so he's be a popular choice to bring back

Very. You can play with everything.

We ordered Dominoe'swhen we were in line for Episode 3 the other day. Got a large cheese, peperoni, and supreme.

"It's a traditional system of level after level. "

"Our intent is to release high quality footage of this after E3 at some point. "

"It also isn't finished. That was the roughet part of the video and included at the last second. The other bits of the video are much more polished and ready to ship. "

"That's great to hear. We've been hearing some nice things from fans and people that saw the video.
The best thing that can happen now is to get the gameplay videos spread so more people can see them. Thanks for your efforts. "

"The game will be in boxes in stores. Always.
Judge xStream when you try it, not before I've seen Doom 3 download for 6-7 minutes and be available for play as the rest streams in the background. It's pretty neat. "

The gadgets didn't stop there. In another area, panels activated by gunfire can completely reverse the gravity of the room. In a split second, the ceiling became the floor and every object fell along with it. We were told that this would be a significant aspect of the multiplayer mode.

GS: What can you tell us about the plans for Prey's multiplayer, if any? Could you discuss what modes, or any other unique features, are planned for multiplayer?

TG and CR: The focus of the game is on the single-player experience. However, we've included a multiplayer component that focuses on showcasing the environmental and gameplay features introduced in the single-player game. We'll be introducing these features and how they are used in multiplayer as we get closer to release.